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the fiscal cliff. geithner, boehner, and reid and any little nugget of information we get there continues to whip saw the market. don't expect any changes tomorrow or really next week until we get more clarity on that situation. the up shot of that is companies continue to make these special dividends, borrowing cheap in the bond market in many cases and continue to pay these dividends before the end of the year. >> all right. we'll be watching that. darren, you're up. 30 seconds on the clock. >> i'm looking at the euro. looking for the pullback to the 129.50 level. i do think we're going to hold that level and push higher. that will push risk assets higher as well. i'm looking for a consolidation of the s&p overnight. once we get through chicago purchasing managers, i think we're going to reverse to the up side. we'll end the week on a strong note. again, it will be whippy with headline to headline. i don't think we're going to get many headlines into the weekend. >> all right. thanks so much. last but not least, peter, you're up. 30 seconds on the clock. what do you want to look at? >>
on the fiscal cliff. but john boehner showed up at the white house christmas party last night. yeah free booze. that will get them every time. what do you say? hello, everybody. great to see you today. it is tuesday december 4. this is the "full court press." booming out to you live on your local progressive talk radio station on sirius x.m. this hour only. for some reason. and all three hours of course, on current tv. great to see you today. thanks for being part of the program. we've got lots and lots to talk about. on the news here from our nation's capital. on the news around the country. here in our nation's capital, it is mainly fiscal cliff. around the country, duane says it is too bad his girlfriend didn't have a gun then they could have had a shoot-out and other people could have been killed. in syria more signs of president assad's days are numbered and the white house warning syria you better not think about using chemical weapons like saddam hussein did. so we'll bring it all to you. take your calls. giv
's a deal struck on the fiscal cliff. i think boehner is trying to exert control. leaders try to exert control before these votes happen. sometimes weeks before. so this was a warning to house conservatives, that if you go against leadership and a deal is struck, there are going to be consequences. >> yeah. so chuck todd, let's talk about the other side of pennsylvania avenue. the president of the united states yesterday speaking with john boehner. and they wisely decided not to characterize that phone call, thank god for the sake of america. and the world. also, you had tim geithner. good god. >> he didn't say anything he hasn't said before. >> geithner on the sunday shows was saying oh, yeah, the republicans are going to back down. they're going to cower in the corner, tremble and whatever. and then yesterday he said we're going to go over the cliff if republicans don't do what we want. i'm curious, what's the white house attitude right now? are they willing to go over the cliff? is geithner right? >> are they willing to go over the cliff? i guess they are, but they also don't believ
of speaker boehner's proposal to avert the fiscal cliff? >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks about $800 billion worth of revenues but says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> reporter: he won't agree to eliminate a tax deduction for contributions to charity. >> every hospital and university and nonfor profit agency across the country would find themselves on the verge of collapse. so that's not a realistic option. >> reporter: but the president didn't say all this to speaker boehner. he said it in an interview on bloomberg tv. the last time the two men spoke was almost a week ago. president obama is focused on the stalemate with congress over averting the fiscal cliff, but he's just not talking to house republicans about it. at the white house, he discussed the issue with a bipartisan group of governors. >> i know that the president wants a deal and he didn't try to handicap it. >> reporter: earlier this week, he told so-called middle class americans on twitter, keep pressure on congress. he
boehner about the fiscal cliff negotiations. i think he said you guys got to get serious. pretty serious about his criticism of the white house. bonuses for executives shutting down hostess. that's right. a u.s. bankruptcy judge approved $1.75 million in incentive bonuses yesterday for 19 hostess bosses, as they unwind the company. the maker of beloved american staples like twinkies, wonder bread, ding dongs, ho-hoes, closed its doors earlier this month after its bakers union went on strike over reduced pay and benefits, and you'll recall the company went to a judge and said we're going to shut down. so they are. executives will get bonuses as they finish the job of closing down the company. >> a long time in the making, right? >> it could be they survived the great depression but couldn't survive the great recession and a couple attempts at bankruptcy, and that's it. so we'll see. maybe the brands will exist if another company hires them. >> ahead on "starting point" not a good sign when your big negotiator for the fiscal cliff literally gets laughed at. what's the next move for the oba
after discouraging words from washington on the state of the fiscal cliff. this time it was house speaker boehner speaking with reporters after meeting with treasury secretary tim geithner. eamon javers is in washington with the latest. eamon, the sentiment down here is these guys should stop talking and start crafting a deal. >> reporter: that's the sentiment here in the hallways of capitol hill as well, sue. i can tell you that. we are starting to get a little more clarity on what's going on here today. i just had the chance just a few moments ago to button-hole senator harry reid here in the hallway, asking him a very specific question. i said did treasury secretary tim geithner come up here with a new specific offer for republicans? is that what he laid down on the table for speaker john boehner today? reid told me -- no, there was no specific offer here today from geithner to the republican side. he said that the president of the united states made the democrats' over two weeks ago and there's been no new specific offer since then. i think that explains a little bit of why we
stories. >>> president obama and house speaker john boehner chatting by phone about the fiscal cliff. no details or word of progress or future talks with just 26 days remaining to get a deal done. another prominent republican is breaking ranks. tom coburn, a leading conservative and fiscal hawk saying he'd prefer raising taxes on the wealthy as a way to raise revenues. >>> a bitter turf war between twitter and instagram elle cl escalating. no one on twitter will be able to see the images posted on instagram. instagram's goal is getting people to post more photos on their site. >>> a man cannot have any more children until he shows proof that he can actually afford those children. 44-year-old corey curtis is charged with failure to support two of the nine children that he's fathered with six women. he owes $85,000 and says he is ready to abide by the judge's order. >> good idea. >> all right. the grammy nominations announced in style with a star-studded concert, jay z and kanye west were among the six artists tied for the most nominations, six apiece. the grammy awards ceremony, music
for the middle class. >>heather: thank you. >>gregg: from the fiscal cliff to will i don'ting the debt ceiling speaker boehner disagreeing with president obama under the white house proposal. the president would have the power to raise the debt limit on his own, whenever he wants, as needed. speaker boehner saying congress isn't budging on that issue and here is what he had to say on fox news sunday. >> congress will never give up the power and i made it clear to the president that when we get to the debt limit we need to cut some reforms that are greater than the increase in the debt limit. it is the only way to leverage the political process to produce more change than if left alone. >>gregg: you can see more of the remarks on "fox news sunday" at the top of the hour. >> extreme weather on the west coast flood advisories in effect for storm ravaged parts of northern california as another storm bringing heavy rain and police and fire officials wanting the napa and russian rivers expected to break their banks. and now, streaming live from northern california. >>reporter: yes, the banks are abo
politics." >>> another day of fiscal cliff drama. stocks reversed early gains and fell shortly after house speaker john boehner dashed hopes that lawmakers were getting closer to agreeing on a year-end budget deal. but all three major markets did bounce back by the afternoon. >>> economic data was positive thursday, but we'll see what impact there is today from grim news out of europe. eurozone unemployment has hit another record high at 11.7% in october. >>> the number of retailers posted poor sales hammered by superstorm sandy's impact on the northeast. >>> a bankruptcy judge has given hostess final clearance to start selling off assets and approved $1.8 million in bonuses for company executives. >>> verizon wireless tops this year's "consumer reports" ranking of major carriers. it was at&t that came in last behind sprint and t-mobile, except among 4g users where it was the best. >>> and where is the best country to be born in 2013? well, when factoring in life expectancy, divorce rates and rainfall, it's switzerland, according to the economist. i bet all the chocolate doesn't hurt. the
there's no reason they should fall off the fiscal cliff adding the only reason why it would happen is if a group of members of congress decide they are going to block an agreement because they want to extend the tax rates for the rich. back to you. >> kelly wright, thank you. it's time for a look at who is talking. another big talker down on capitol hill the september 11th attack on consulate in benghazi. >> we know there was intelligence leading up to the attacks that warned of security risks. diane fine stein is one of the chairs on congress's intelligence committee has been leading the investigation as to what went wrong with libya. now she says it is knotted the intelligence that should be blamed but instead the decision makers. >>> i have reviewed all of the threat warnings by the intelligence community. there were multiple threat warnings well over 200. i have read the priority warnings. i believe the ingenls is good. you can't blame the intelligence. they didn't make the right decision. >> the security warning is what congressman mike rogers is also talking about this mornin
pushed into political relevance. >> yes, for example, the fight over the fiscal cliff is taking place between speaker boehner and the white house. they put republicans in the senate in a rare type of position where they are in the game, but they are not the leaders of the game. see what is going on in the senate in general. we're republicans should have the majority of the senate, if not highly ontological candidates were nominated by the party base. thinking of someone like richard murdoch in indiana. there's no reason the democrats should not hold that seat. they are putting republicans in the senate at a disadvantage. >> the other thing is that ted cruz is a tea party candidate, marco rubio is a tea party canada. [talking over each other] [talking over each other] >> there are mistakes made. there are good choices made. i'm just saying there is a capacity to make that choice and those that are good communicators of a conservative vision. greg: i was looking at some of the most recent polls, and it looks that republicans will get the blame if we go off the fiscal cliff. is that how
charming, engaging, how winning is that demeanor, is it at all, in dealing with john boehner and the fiscal cliff? >> i think they're kind of past all that at this point, right? i mean, i don't think the demeanor's really going to help at this point. they've been through this -- they've done this dance before. most of the players who are involved in this negotiation are the same players that were involved in the negotiation that happened in the summer of 2011 over the debt ceiling. and so these guys know each other pretty well by now, and i think the president and john boehner, even after all of that, still have a reasonable working relationship. but i think that the president's people have made a very clear calculation, they decided that they tried a way of negotiating in 2011 which was to be what they think of as reasonable. to come in and say, put your cards on the table. this is where we think a good deal will end up. $3 in spending cuts for $1 in tax increases. here's a bunch of medicare cuts on sbilentitlement. show your hand. this is what the president's willing to do. meet me here i
with the fiscal cliff. this deal will only get done by president obama and john boehner making a deal. they came close in the summer of 2011. the parties are so polarized and partisans polarized this is a problem. >> i keep saying we need a presidential historian or hostage negotiator. somebody could say we've been at stalemates before, gotten over it, shut down the government in '96. tip o'neill and ronald reagan managed to solve problems and get along. listen to what john mccain said about what we need here. >> it's time now to sit across the table from one another, rather than -- in the way they did with ronald reagan and the way you get things done in washington. >> the way they did with ronald reagan and get things done in washington. you sit together and figure it out. they were at a holiday party they didn't talk to each other. they're issuing sort of statements and rebuttals and saying i'm not going to budge. >> negotiation by press release. this is not how things get done in washington and part of the problem of the growing incivility in washington. people don't work together the way th
for these massive spending cuts that would come at the end of the year if we go over the fiscal cliff. the white house saying they don't expect we will. they still hope it can be prevented, but they have to start planning. also, speaker of the house john boehner meeting with small business leaders on capitol hill where he reiterated some of his key points. again, just within the past hour. take a listen. >> business owners with us today are here to highlight president obama's demand to raise tax rates instead of cutting spending. his plan will hurt nearly 1 million small businesses around our country. that will affect hundreds of thousands of jobs. >> reporter: and guys, there are republicans here on capitol hill who are urging the speaker to cut a deal with the president. i talked to one of the earliest republicans to say, you know what, let's take a the president up on his offer to extend the bush tax cuts for everybody under $250,000 and at least take that uncertainty off the table and then continue to negotiate the rest to have later. some of the republicans are now coalessing around that vi
. john boehner said there has been no substantive progress in the fiscal cliff talks. >> whose fault is that. >> stephanie: yes, they have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. it's the same kind of rhetoric, isn't it? >> caller: i guess the election is not over. >> stephanie: yeah yeah, yeah. that seems to be the critical thing. they don't seem to realize that the american people have spoken. >> caller: i think everyone is trying to position himself here to get down to brass tacks which is what is going to happen before you go into oblivion. i'm not surprised with what is going on. the president made a proposal yesterday. $1.6 trillion in revenues which included $960 billion in raising marginal rates. we want the president to keep his promise. that's what the elections are all about. >> stephanie: that's right. we were just reading the latest "washington post" "abc news" poll and it echos the exit polls. 61% want those to pay their fair share, and 70% don't want them to raise the social security medicare eligibility rate. >> that's not the problem raising the rates on the wel
they will break with protocol. with grover norquist and his tax pledge to reach the deal on the fiscal cliff is sticking in solidarity with it. we're asking what he would be willing to compromise on. >> as we mentioned, house speaker boehner and other leadership meeting with treasury secretary geithner. boehner is expected to hold a press conference afterwards at 11:30 a.m. and we will bring it to you live. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. so i never missed a beat. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. ♪ [ male announcer ] 'tis the season to discover the kid in all of us. enjoy free shipping and great values on your holiday shopping from l.l. bean. can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. you can st
'll have a fiscal cliff deal, but then listen to what speaker john boehner said today. >> right now i would say we're nowhere. period. we're nowhere. we have put a serious offer on the table by putting revenues to try to get this question resolved. but the white house has asked for more revenue than they have been asking for the entire time. >> so how do you treat the gop in this matter? how much leverage does the gop have? >> they have next to none. you look at the results of the election and where they are now, the white house and the president have done a masterful job of making clear what's going on here. the republicans and the house of representatives are holding 98% of american taxpayers hostage to get bush's tax cuts for the wealthiest to be permanent. that's what's going on here. the polls show people are going to blame the republicans if this happens. speaker boehner talks about a serious proposal. they are going to take away loopholes that help middle class taxpayers. that's not a serious proposal. the only way they are going to get the deficits down is get the tax rates back to
of this "fiscal cliff" drama, they spoke yesterday raising hopes that formal talks will resume on how to to avoid across-the-board spending cuts and tax increases. we have been saying this for weeks. they will kick in if a budget agreement is not reached by year's end. >>> a number of state lawmakers had their cars fixed and you paid for it. lawmakers lost the perk of a free car about a year ago at least 37 of them deciding to buy the cars. that was an option. they have been using them when the state sold them. first they had all the cars repaired and maintained at state expense. $78,000 worth of work. >> as a taxpayer, you know, it's my money going to it so it's frustrating. >> doesn't sound fair. we work really hard for our money. >> we do. but a source in the legislature says the work was worth it. the state got more money when it sold the cars that were not bought by the lawmakers but had the repairs done. they got more money for those cars. so i guess it evens out. >>> same-sex marriage is now legal in the state of washington. dozens of gay and lesbians got in line to pick up marriage licens
at the fiscal cliff and we look at john boehner and you're right, he did give up revenue. he said okay. i'm going to cave on that. we'll raise revenue. but the president has been absolutely adamant, i'm not budging unless the top 2% pay a higher rate. not just revenue, a higher rate. >> the top 2% will pay higher taxes because of the revenue rates that we will raise without raising the tax rates. once you raise the tax rates, they become permanent. you can't change them. it will be almost impossible to change them and of course, that affects, like i say, almost a million small businesses and about 700,000 jobs. that's what the american people aren't getting from the debate on this subject. frankly, it is a bait and switch because the president has put out a plan that even democrats won't support that literally will not work, that literal israeli going to cause even more spending than we have right now, and put us even more than the 16 trail, $300 billion debt that we're incurring, going up every day. >> steve: senator, for generations, americans have always tried to make sure that our chi
-called fiscal cliff, but so far there's been more rhetoric than resolve. there's now less than a month to head off the automatic tax hikes and spending cuts that will kick in next year. john boehner said he can't believe the latest white house proposal. the obama administration insists there's no deal without a tax increase. susan mcginnis is in washington with details this morning. susan, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, terrell. it may appear the two sides are nowhere but these talks are expected to pick up dramatically very soon. december is here and as they say here in washington the lawmakers can smell the jet fumes meaning the planes taking them home for their holiday recess. what we're hearing there should be a deal by christmas. the white house is already decorated for the holidays but the mood here in washington is anything but festive. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> reporter: if congress doesn't act america will ring in the new year with $110 billion in spending cuts and a $500 billion tax increase leaving the average household with a nearly $3,500 hangover.
, the fiscal cliff. geithner's president lead negotiator in the budget talks. he'll meet first with harry reid at 10:00 a.m. and then with house republicans including speaker john boehner, eric cantor and paul ryan. geithner will lunch with mitch mcconnell and then house minority leader nancy pelosi. president obama is signaling he's flexible on on where tax rates should go for the wealthiest americans. a return to the clinton era tax rates would have households pay between 36% to 39%. the president met with a group of 14 ceos wednesday afternoon. they offered support for resolving the if i can crisis with a proposal for higher taxes for those who make more than a quarter million dollars a year. sdl bo >> both sides have acknowledged that there will be revenue concessions and sbilgtment cent concessio concessions. i'm not a master of the political art here, but i would say if you have these point of views in a business context as close as they are, i would say a deal would be in reach. >> ford chairman bill ford junior agrees with blankfein saying he's confident the obama administration can re
. the fiscal cliff stalemate or n not, we don't know if they can come to an agreement at all. >> john boehner said we are at a stalemate, is that how you would describe things? >> i think we are far apart but we are moving closer together. >> the leading republican predicts doom and gloom. >> i think we are going over the cliff. it is pretty clear to me they have made a political calculation. >> coming up, a conservative host says the whole fiscal cliff is bogus and we should go ahead and let the country fall over that cliff. >>> the kansas city chiefs won their second game of the season today. it was a game that the coaches and owners decided to play even though the team was rocked by the news that one of their own committed suicide shortly after allegedly killing his girlfriend. >> it was very emotional, but you saw brothers stick together, coaches stick together and everybody stayed strong. this is a great team win. >> reporter: do you think the tragedy had something to do with your team playing better today? >> honestly, if we can erase yesterday, that would be a great blessing, but i thi
. although he hasn't outlined what he thinks should be cut. if they can't avoid the fiscal cliff, it means on january 1st, every american will pay more income tax, between 2,000 to $2,200 for the average family. $500 billion in automatic spending cuts will go into effect. half of that at the pentagon. the other half coming in transportation, food safety and research. economists feel if washington can't strike a deal, the economy will fall back into recession and the unemployment rate will shoot up, rob and paula. >> tahman, the clock is ticking in all of this. where do the talks go from here this week? >> well, the white house said president obama presented his plan last week and the gop leaders shot it down. now, the ball is in the hands of the republicans. right now, it's all about the math. republicans may have to cave on taxes but president obama may have to accept deeper spending cuts. only 18 days left. >> the messy art of compromise. tahman bradley live in washington. >>> and rivers are rising across northern california this morning after three powerful storms blow through in less t
under control in a way that is fair and balanced. >> stocks trade on fiscal cliff comments from president obama and john boehner. >> no substantive progress has been made in talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. the white house has to get serious. >> republicans know where we stand. we have said it. we've said it. we've said it so many times. >> i think all of us today are confident we can reach a bipartisan agreement by christmastime. >> according to a congressional republican aides who have talked to "the wall street journal," they obtained a copy of the white house prover here in the negotiations. >> do you have faith in any of them to rise above? >> would it be okay to go over? >> we will rise above. >> eamon javers joins us live from washington. they seem farther apart than ever before. the dow is above 13,000 for the first time in several weeks. do you think the markets are reading comments correctly? >> i do think markets have gotten it wrong a lot this week. they have been reacting strongly to things that are boilerplate information and bas
this brinksmanship about the budget and the fiscal cliff is all just fine. i don't want to go over the cliff. i think it would be irresponsible. >> does the president want to go over? we got to listen to all the republicans and the conservative media today are saying president obama wants to go over the fiscal cliff, because then taxes go up across the board. and then it's got to be done retroactively. >> which is not what the president wants but there's a big difference between this fiscal cliff and the full faith and credit of the united states. the american government has never defaulted on its debt. and now there are some, not the majority of republicans but some on the extreme of the republican party and they seem to be in control, who seem to want to default on our debt. that's crazy. if they cannot be entrusted with the full faith and credit of the united states, they should not have that leverage. >> paul, where were the overtures though? where were the overtures with this deal that was presented? i mean, listen, you don't have to be mensa to know delivering a deal like that was going to make
the warnings of the so-called fiscal cliff and how it could damage the question. why are we in the situation. they agreed to extend it for two years. the rates expire on january 1st for everybody . in 2011, the president enacted a pay roll tax holiday . that goes away january 1st . deep spending cuts over the raising of the ceiling. they're designed to be painful and a way to force compromise and cut spending in congress. what is next. we may get an idea tomorrow morning. chris wallace will sit down with key players . an exclusive interview with house speaker john boehner . check for when fox news airs in your mexico is swearing in a new president hours ago . people are rioting in the streets over the news and questions about what it means for the relationship between the u.s. and mexico. 46 year old taking the oath of office promising a national transformation and a new program to prevent crime. as we reported over the yoors, 60,000 people have died in the drug war in mexico. it means a return to the pri party. that party was voted out of office after years of corand various other crime. so
the fiscal cliff and the market dove yesterday on comments from house speaker john boehner. data released yesterday showed economic growth in the u.s. is still weak. consumers and businesses alike are putting a hold on spending. natalie? >> thank you. >>> and a grade school in south lina has shed new light on how to take a class photo. they didn't just stick the short kids in front, call kids in the back. each child wore a specific color, formed an amazing image of a light house. all part of the annual cultural week at beach hill elementary. great job, kids. that's fantastic. >>> it is 7:19. back to savannah, willie, and al. makes my photos look terrible. >> way more organization than my elementary school. >>> who will be with david gregory? just wondering. >> people don't know, willie trying to do an interview with david gregory, al was heckling him. >> heckling me here, covering serious matters of the day, have the peanut gallery over here. >> can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with. >>> how about the weather. >> let's show you what we've got. here in the east, looking
: president barack obama has made his plan to avert the fiscal cliff very clear. he wants to raise taxes now. and, by the way, he'll get back to us with how exactly he intends to cut spending later. that's why speaker of the house john boehner told reporters no substantive progress has been made. president obama has no interest in reducing the size of the federal government. now democrats before him he's dangling the prospect of future budget cuts in the hopes republicans will take the bait. with that in mind, it's important to remember the words of president ronald reagan, he wrote them in his own autobiography, and described in great deal a deal he struck with the democrats in 1980s, promising $3 in spending cuts for every dollar in a tax increase. reagan wrote, the democrats reneged on their pledge and we never got those cuts. perhaps that's why some on the right are calling foul on these negotiations. >> the only secret talks have revealed, a government that skips from one crisis to the next. all of this secrecy allows the president to petition himself frankly and being in favor of a bal
and in the fiscal cliff when it comes to that. ashley: certainly will. milton ms. rought at this, thanks for being with us for your perspective on the market when we see what happens in washington. thanks so much. >> thank you. tracy: he is oozing confidence in washington, isn't he? ashley: yes. dripping with sarcasm i think is more --. tracy: sham else about. i love that word. it's a shambles. there is so much more ahead this hour including a biotech ceo what is hurting innovation in the sector. you guessed it, obamacare. a corda's ron cohen is here. ashley: apple making lots of news with its stock swings. reports it is shifting production away from china back to the u.s. as we do this time every day, look how oil is trading. down nearly 2%. bun a buck 73 at 86.15 a barrel. we'd be right back there is no mass-produced human. every human being is unique. and there is one store tha. the sleep nuer store. the only place in the world you'll find the extraordinarily comfortable sleep number experience. an exclusive collection of innovations that totally individualize your sleep. perfectly comfortable
would happen if we go over the fiscal cliff. the president is counting on that. >> which republicans? boehner doesn't get -- some of these guys go back to the auto parts shop where they came from before they were a tea party republican, wherever they -- you can't -- it's not a monday know lit. you can't get mad at the house. >> people pointed out some of the republicans were there and congress don't care. >> no, why would they? >> i don't necessarily think president obama cares that much either. his leg legacy is about obamacare, redistribution. and you can't control the economy. you can divide the pie better, but it will have these cycles. bush messed things up. i did the best i could, but he'll redistribute and that will happen, we'll spread the wealth around. and i don't think he cares that much about it. >> you don't think he cares about -- >> his chief of staff during the cry says said you'll be -- this is job one, the crisis. and he go that's not enough. he wants to be transformative. i don't know. we'll see. i asked the first time around why isn't he more concerned with job gr
on this fiscal cliff issue. he particularly cited your report which he described as providing imperfect but fair middle ground as a way of breaking this political stalemate. he's saying only the president would adopt your approach that maybe this stalemate could be broken. what do you think about that? >> (laughing) well, i haven't seen the letter, as i think you know. it's nice that the speaker would give me some credit for trying to do that. but what he is referring to is when i testified before the super committee, i tried to show these guys that if they truly wanted to ghettoing that they could ghettoing at that time. and basically as an example on discretionary spending they were talking about cuts between $200-$400 billion. look, ghettoing on $300 billion. on health care between $500 billion and $700 billion. there was $600 billion. another mandatory that got that number that came out is $300 billion. both were talking about changing to the superlative c.p.i. so you could get $200 billion there and you'd have $400 billion come out of interest. that would be $1.8 trillion on top of the 1.3
an alternative, either to the fiscal cliff or to what the president is offering. the president's plan was put on the table last week. it was not that well with president on. speaker boehner and others. stuart: i wonder, as an insider, among democrats, and that is what you are, simon, i want you to tell me, what plans does the president or any other democrats, have to reform social entitlement? >> first of all, if you remember well, stuart, mitt romney and the republicans beat up on president obama for the last three years for cutting medicare at $716 billion. he has already showed he is willing to take a big bite out of a major entitlement program. stuart: hold on a second. i do remember it. that is not reform. that is not reforming the structure of entitlement programs. that is the issue. >> i think the focus has been on medicare. the attention now needs to be on medicare inside the aca. there were large structural reforms in the way healthcare was playing out. in fact, last year, we had a slower rate of growth and health care spending that we have had in quite a time. whether president has
effect. that could be also, by the way, a fiscal cliff effect. zplint vi >> interviewing secretary geithner later today. what's your first question going to be? >> i want to get his response -- we had the president respond to boehner's proposal but i want to get the secretary's response, too, the specific issue of, hey, the republicans looked like they made a step forward, actually got some accolades in some of the press for agreeing to new revenues. where's the administration's response on that side? are they willing to give? i think that's a key question right now in terms of what the news flow is right now but also there's critical questions about the dollars on both sides of the equation, tyler. >> steve leisman, thank you very much. >>> jim iuorio, i want to ask you the same question i just asked steve. if you were talking to secretary geithner at 4:00 p.m. today as steve will be, what would your first question to him be? >> my questions would be about dividends and capital gains as they're market related. with the dividends we've seen a tremendous amount of companies bring th
. >>> with exactly a month until the country pitches over the fiscal cliff, discussions between lawmakers seem to be stuck in the mud. friday the president warned republicans, warned the republicans may be wrapping boxes of coal for middle class families. while house speaker john boehner said the white house proposal has created an impasse. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st. that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. >> there's a stalemate. let's not kid ourselves. i mean, it's -- it was not a serious proposal. and, so, right now we're almost no where. >> almost no where. joining me now, former dnc communication director and msnbc political analyst karen finney and also senior fellow at the research council ken blackwell. good afternoon to both of you. >> good afternoon. >> ken, let me start with you. do you believe these negotiat n negotiations are at a stalemate or is this just some made for tv drama? >> i think it's made for tv drama and both sides are playing the clock and it's like, unfortu
cliff. stay right here. >>> i'm ali velshi. this is your money. house speaker john boehner called white house efforts to make a deal preposterous. the republican counter we're hearing about which extends the bush tax cuts for everybody including the wealthiest americans won't get washington any closer to a deal. washington's reckless behavior is already having serious economic consequences. i'm going to show you how and make sure you understand the truth about that raising taxes would mean for the economy, but first, set aside the doom and gloom of the fiscal cliff for a moment, let's look at today's money menu. check out auto sales up big in november. sales of gm cars were up 3.4%. ford saw a 6.5% jump in sales and chrysler shot up 14%. u.s. autos are on track to see their best sales month nationwide since february of 2008 as the big three continues to put the auto bailout in the rear view mirror. ford never took the bailout money from the government. what's sibehind the surge in au sales, no short cuts. the jobs outlook is looking better. access to finance is improving if you want to
-called fiscal cliff and president obama making his case to raise taxes on the rich while john boehner, the speaker of the house opens negotiating. >> it's not acceptable to me and i don't think it's acceptable to you, for a handful of republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they don't want the tax rates on upper income folks to go up. all right? that, that doesn't make sense. >> increasing tax rates draws money away from our economy that needs to be invested in our economy that needs to put the american people back to work. it's the wrong approach. and we're willing to put revenues on the table, but revenues that come from closing loopholes, getting rid of special interest deductions and not raising rates. >> clayton: so with all of that, the white house saying they're unwilling to compromise on tax likes for the wealthy, where do we go from here. >> juliet: let's ask dana perino, currently on "the five" fox news channel. >> how are you. >> a great so-so far, lots of calories on that table out there. >> dave: speaking of ugly, how was the offer fro
-called fiscal cliff. president obama meets with bipartisan groups of governors about the problem today. the meeting a day after house speaker jonathan boehner laid a republican plan to solve the crisis on the table and calls for $800 billion in higher taxes revenue and does not increase taxes on wealthy americans. the white house is rejecting the offer, saying any deal must include an end to tax cuts for families making over $250,000. >>> and the senate has approved a new u.s. commander for the war in afghanistan. he's marine corporal general joseph doneford and replaces general john al llen, nominatedo head forces in europe. allen's nomination on hold because of his involvement in the sex scandal that brought down former cia director david petraeus. >>> in foreign news, new intelligence reports, indicate syria's government may be preparing to use chemical and biological weapons against the rebels. in response though, the u.s. and its allies are considering military options. here's abc's martha raddatz. >> reporter: the latest intelligence is alarming. officials telling abc news the u.
at avoiding that so-called fiscal cliff in washington as about as far apart as they've ever been. overnight, president obama released a campaign-style video pushing his plan on now avoid the tax increase on the middle class. john boehner said the white house isn't listening to republicans who demanding cuts. >>> an entire town in louisiana has been evacuated and police have launched a criminal investigation after finding 6 million pounds of explosives stored improperly at the munitions factory you that see here. authorities are now carefully working to move the explosive powder into safe bunkers. >>> public school students in five states will soon be spending more time in class. a lot more. a pilot program is being announced today in the states highlighted on your screens. 20,000 students in those collse schools will spend an extra 3 0 3050 -- 300 hours in class every term, in hopes of making them more competitive with the foreign students. >>> and new concerns this morning about the new "hobbit" film due out this month. in fact, people with the early screening said the film made them stic
sounds] >> if the president really wants to avoid sending the economy over the fiscal cliff he's done nothing to demonstrate it. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we're talking about in terms of actual legislation to increase revenues it's magic beans and fairy dust. [farting sounds] >> stephanie: all right. >> fairy dust goes very well with bourbon. >> stephanie: republicans were quick to say that boehner's plan was attracting criticism from the right particularly from jim demint of south carolina, tea party leader and as such, represented more of a compromise than obama's stance. uh no! nice try. demint said boehner's plan will destroy american jobs and allow politicians in washington to spend more. oh, please we're not falling for this. they think if they criticize the plan, oh, well it must be a good compromise then. nice try! 29 minutes after the hour. spongebob squarepants tom kenny, our buddy our pal next on "the stephanie miller show." you know who's coming on to me now? you know the kind of guys w
offers when i'm buying a condominium, but the problem is we're so close to the fiscal cliff that you wonder why the president and the white house did what they did. not because they didn't have a right to start there and play hardball, but because john boehner is balancing. republicans say they will never, ever, ever vote for a tax increase, and those who say okay, well, let's make a deal. and i just think the president, by starting with a proposal that even "the wall street journal" said was provocative, maybe not the best first step to help john boehner pull over a majority of his caucus. >> totally disagree, because i think it gives boehner room now to look like he brought the president in now. i think it's a great first offer, because it's going to have to change now. just like bidding on a house, i give ridiculously low offers. but you ultimately end up with a deal. >> you see even this answer? she doesn't believe a thing she says. but that's her first offer. >> we'll see what happens with the second offer. when you look at what's happened over the past week, a couple of campaig
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